No to Hartwells Student Build

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modernmilly

#1

May 09, 2014, 17:38

This land is obviously going to be developed but Bath desperately needs more housing for young buyers rather than more student accommodation
MikeCB

#2 Too big and in the wrong place

May 10, 2014, 07:28

Students are a very positive part of life in Bath, but this development is just far too big and in the wrong place. A residential development done in partnership with the surrounding community does seem like a better option for this site. Also I would love to see a linear park with pedestrian and cycle paths.
@Al_prof

#3

May 10, 2014, 13:04

I agree with both comments. I am a University Professor and definitely pro-student. But I know from other Uni developments all around the country that town vs gown friction always results when high density student housing is (especially from the "for profit" sector of housing owners) is plonked in the middle of a residential district. I am also angered at the lack of consultation. When you look at the plans you can see from the surrounding property that the pictures are based on drawings from two years ago. So why have they only consulted now in the same month they plan to put the planning application in?
Achilles

#4 Hartwell's Student Build

May 10, 2014, 13:56

I also believe that new build should be for the residents of Bath. The young people of the city need good, affordable housing but this proposal is aimed at a transient population who will have no real stake in the community. Both Universities have plenty of their own land that they could use for new student accommodation.

Guest

#5

May 10, 2014, 14:26

This development is just too large for the area which has relatively limited local amenities. Far better for the site to be used for a private residential development.

Guest

#6

May 10, 2014, 17:24

We already have problems with RUH staff parking in Newbridge Road plus parents parking in order to deliver their children to the local school. Children also cross the road outside Hartwells, quite often running ahead of their parents - an accident waiting to happen!

Guest

#7

May 10, 2014, 19:02

The lack of a full and proper consultation period is deplorable. This appears to be a very high density student accommodation with a poor bedroom to parking ratio in a residential area. This site should be used to develop more affordable housing within Bath.

Guest

#8

May 10, 2014, 19:30

This is a ridiculous spot for housing 500 students.

Guest

#9

May 11, 2014, 08:27

I think it is important for residents and for parents of children at Newbridge School to be consulted fully on this.

Guest

#10

May 11, 2014, 19:48

It is an ill thought out scheme for such a residential area.
Local residents already have difficulty parking because of parents and teachers going to Newbridge Primary School and also nurses and patients going to the Royal United Hospital. Some Very often parking ALL DAY.
There will be noise and vandalism from "some students" during the night and early morning when returning from nightclubs.

Guest

#11

May 11, 2014, 20:01

This proposal has not been very well thought out for such a residential area and should be scrapped.

Guest

#12

May 11, 2014, 20:28

To propose a site for 400+ students in the middle of a residential area miles away from uni facilities and the type of amenities students require (supermarket/night clubs/library?) is unsuitable for all concerned. Aside from the issues already mentioned (parking/volume of beds), if this scheme were successful it would no doubt over time lead to the degredation of the area through a general increase in student population via private lettings as has happened in large parts of Oldfield Park.

Residential or possibly mixed commercial/residential is a far more appropriate use.

Guest

#13

May 11, 2014, 21:06

The proposed plan would be disastrous for the area. This area is already congested with parking from the hospital and the school. The proposed plan does not provide sufficient parking for the students, and it is ludicrous to suggest that students will not bring cars with them, when the site is located so far from the university or from any of the amenities that they would need.
Furthermore, the houses in the area would begin to convert to student lets, the parking pressure would be increased again and the area would begin to lose value and desirability.
tim

#14 a good scheme

May 11, 2014, 21:19

When you think of the alternatives, a supermarket, houses etc, then I actuallyvthink that the student build is pretty good. They are thebonly category of tennants where yih can enforce a no car rules, they would help support the shops on Chelsea Road and, unlike houses for sale they would not put any furthervpressure on places at Newbridge School. The slopjng site is ideally suited to multistory buildings which would allow high density and yet not obscure anyones views.

Face it, this land will get build on sooner or later, if this scheme falls the alternatives could be a lit worse.

Guest

#15 Re: a good scheme

May 11, 2014, 21:35

#14: tim - a good scheme

400-500 students in a residential district or 50 affordable houses (with a parking space each) for the next generation of permanent residents? You choose!   Also, if this is a private "for profit" student accommodation, how can anyone legally enforce no cars? (its not like its on campus). WASPS (another good school in the district) is going to 3 form entry, so not sure argument about school places is that crucial.


Guest

#16

May 11, 2014, 21:35

To propose a site for 400+ students in the middle of a residential area miles away from uni facilities and the type of amenities students require (supermarket/night clubs/library?) is unsuitable for all concerned. Aside from the issues already mentioned (parking/volume of beds), if this scheme were successful it would no doubt over time lead to the degredation of the area through a general increase in student population via private lettings as has happened in large parts of Oldfield Park.

Residential or possibly mixed commercial/residential is a far more appropriate use.

Guest

#17

May 12, 2014, 09:02

With the need for more residential housing in Bath and the preference for using brown field sites rather than green field makes this site a prime candidate for new low cost housing for Bath's younger generations. The proposal to build accommodation for 500 students on this site is ridiculous with it being far too large and in the wrong place.

Guest

#18

May 12, 2014, 16:45

I think the location of this site so close to our school will actually make it even more like running the gauntlet for the kids going to and from. I don't think the area could effectively cope with such a large development. Far more suited to residential development.

Guest

#19

May 12, 2014, 16:53

Parking and traffic congestion problems will have a huge effect on travelling to and from Bath

Guest

#20

May 13, 2014, 08:43

A quiet residential street cannot absorb 450 students. There are no amenities - how would this many people gain access to the services they need? A student campus like this should be on University grounds, not in a residential area.

Guest

#21

May 13, 2014, 08:56

No thought has been given to the residents currently living in the area and the impact this will have on them. The noise level will be very high when you have such a high number of students in one small area and the bus infrastructure does not allow for a high volume of students catching the bus!
Pam

#22 Too Many Students For The Proposed Site

May 13, 2014, 09:28

As per the other comments - too many people in such a small area would not work in many ways. What we need is more affordable houses to keep the community feel of the area.
Choose a nickname

#23 Subject

May 13, 2014, 12:40

"WASPS (another good school in the district) is going to 3 form entry, so not sure argument about school places is that crucial."

Actually, WASPs have been 3 form entry for some time. There is immense pressure on primary school places in the north west of the city already.

Add this to the plan to build on Primrose Hill, and effectively, you are narrowing the school catchment to the families that can afford to live in the fairly expensive properties within close proximity to the two schools.

Guest

#24

May 13, 2014, 13:10

The proposed development is too large for the space available. 85 car-parking spaces for 431 bedrooms is ludicrous and will lead to huge traffic and parking problems. A small residential development with self contained parking facilities is appropriate.

Guest

#25

May 13, 2014, 16:24

The Newbridge area in Bath has a mixed community of young families, young professionals as well as a middle aged and elderly population. Chelsea Rd shops are ideal for this mix of families but will be drastically changed by the needs of large numbers of students.
Parking is already difficult with 2 schools and RUH using the side roads.
The number if people queuing for buses will potentially be dangerous on narrow pavements
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