Суд над Бхагавад-гитой / Attempt to ban Bhagavad-gita
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/ #8214 Crimes (murder etc) among sadhus2013-04-11 14:19BG 9.30: Even if one commits the most abominable action, if he is engaged in devotional service he is to be considered saintly because he is properly situated in his determination. Bhagavad-gītā As It Is 9.30 api cet su-durācāro bhajate mām ananya-bhāk sādhur eva sa mantavyaḥ samyag vyavasito hi saḥ SYNONYMS api — even; cet — if; su-durācāraḥ — one committing the most abominable actions; bhajate — is engaged in devotional service; mām — unto Me; ananya-bhāk — without deviation; sādhuḥ — a saint; eva — certainly; saḥ — he; mantavyaḥ — is to be considered; samyak — completely; vyavasitaḥ — situated in determination; hi — certainly; saḥ — he. TRANSLATION Even if one commits the most abominable action, ------------- http://www.harekrsna.org/gbc/black.htm A Ajamila das Adhikari brainless Madman of the yuga, supports homosex. pedophile guru lineage Ananta Rupa homosexual teacher having sex with Niragadev and abusing Bengali children Akrura das - Iskcon Vancouver He does not care what Srila Prabhupada says Ambarisa das Alfred Ford Alanath das aka Paramadvaiti Swami reinitiated by Sridhara bogus gaudiamath guru Adridharana das ex-Iskcon Temple president from Calcutta B Basu Ghosa -- Bryan Davies - a Bogus IskCon Pharisee Bhumi devi dasi - a fanatic IskCon women supporting bogus gurus Bolt, Daniel N. - threatening with legal action against those who oppose bogus IskCon devotees Bhavanada Swami pedophile bogus ex Isk_con-guru and sanyasi, sexually abusing children Bhaktipad homosex. bogus Ex Isk_con-guru jailed for conpiracy and murder Bhurijan intense emotionally abusive teacher protecting the child molesters Bhakti Charu Swami Preaches Bogus Current-Link Philosophy, declares Prabhupada DEAD as non-living-link Bhaktimarga Swami aka John Vis - Suffers from psychological problems gay-pedophile associate Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami Bhagavat Ashraya Throw's out of the temple devotees who do not belive in the guru hoax, bogus devotee Badrinarayana supporting molesters ? also had been abusive to his ex-wife Bhaktisvarup Damodar rejected as Diksa-guru, 2/3 appointed bogus acarya Bir Krishna Dasa Goswami bogus GBC clone, codemned by his own son for child neglect Brahmatirtha das defends homosexual pedophile pooja-ites blaspheming vaishnavas Bhaktitirtha Swami bogus GBC-Guru, stealing money from his servant-mataji, trying to get her killed, raped and crippled Bhaktisiddhanta Swami aka Bill Crockett from USA, a puppet of Devamrita Swami and Kirtananada Bhaktibhusana Swami aka Suchandra das aka Stefan Kess, reinitiated by Harikesha bogus German devotee Sannyasi Braja Bihari Dasa aka Brian Bloch, bogus devotee , protector of child abuser C Charu Swami Preaches Bogus Current-Link Philosophy, declares Prabhupada DEAD as non-living-link Chandrasekhara Swami aka Chris Ostrowski, came to Australia with bogus guru Devamrita Swami in 1994. Chatur Bahu das - Murdered Devotee Christian Jansen aka Vedavyasa das, bogus German devotee D Devakinandana das heavy isKcon abuser, beater, likes pedophile pornographic websites Devamrita Swami supporter of the murder guru Kirtananada Dhanurdar Swami a known child abuser / beater and still playing Isk_con-guru Dharmatma das heavy women abuser of New Vrindaban / Kirtanananda Drumila das Cow Killer sending Krishnas Cows and Oxen to slaughter Dheera Krishna Swami bogus Isk_con-Swami, takes his female followers out on dates Devarsirat das - bogus German devotee reinitiated by Narayana Maharaja E Name none Name none F Fedorowsky Joseph aka Gupta das Hansaduttas lawyer in the court case BBTI vs Kary, Crook and Cheat G G B C Governing Body Commission, ther worst perpetrators and most deviant Gaura Keshava aka Greg Jay -- bogus devotee Gauri Dasa aka Gudakesa child abuser used to beat the kids with slaps and sticks Gary Gardner - Sri Galima das Rapist, sex-pervert, child molester, pedophile "headmaster" New Vrindavan Gupta das aka Joseph Fedorowsky Hansaduttas lawyer in the court case BBTI vs Kary Guru Prasad Swami Tantrums And Death Threats From Guru Prasad Swami Gunagrahi Swami George Levington -- Pervert Sannyasi masturbating without breaking the principles Giriraj Swami inciting his followers to threaten to murder Hare Krishna devotees Gopal Krsna Goswami the CrowSwami, the kali-chela GBC/Guru/Acarya Mafiapada H Harikesha Swami Ex bogus Isk_con-guru mafiosi who fell down with his own female disciple Hansadutta Swami Ex bogus Isk_con-guru, drunkard and gun wielder. Hridayananda Swami bogus Isk_con-guru, fond of luxurious living and the tatas of ladies Harisauri ex swami, bogus sannyasi falling down with illicid sex life, talks nonsense Harivilas bogus Iskcon GBC member Hrsikesa dasa aka Richard Shaw Brown joined Bon Maharaj of Gaudia Math I Indradyumna Swami Isa Das - Narayana Maharaja Follower ISKCON COW KILLING IskCon Women Hater machos, purushas and women hater in Iskcon ISKCON is a dangerous extremist cult IskCon Grackles Pest Birds ISKCON Silicon Valley (ISV) San Jose - Alachua IRM - Iskcon Revival Movement, Adridharana das, ex-Iskcon Temple president Calcutta J Jayathirtha Swami Ex bogus L S D Isk_con-guru, beheaded by his own disciple Jayadvaita Swami Dryadvaita, bogus Isk_con-editor perverting all of Prabhupadas original books Jaggadish bogus Isk_con-guru, stealing wife and child from ex-disciple Jayapataka Swami bogus Isk_con-guru, claiming to be appointed successor acarya Jahnu Das suffers from misconceptions that S.P. wants faggot Gurus to succed him James Prins New Vrindaban Krishna Devotee Faces Rape Charges Jadurani - Syamarani Re-Initiated by Narayana Maharaj K Kirtanananda Swami homosex. bogus Ex Isk_con-guru jailed for conpiracy and murder Keshava Bharati Swami CHEATER & PIMP Chasing Whores with Smkirtana Money Kuladri (Arthur Villa), aka "kruel arti", henchman for Kirtananda, now Radhanatha's bucket boy Kurma - the "Famous Chef Cook" or Crook ? Kutichak das - a wife stealing women beating rogue Kavichandra Swami Please Rectify Yourself Kadamba Kanana Swami self confessed bad boy Krishna Dharma Das Copyright's Mahamantra as the personal trademark of the GBC's Kesava Swami bogus Sannyasi Kailasa Candra - The KAILASHA CHANDRA imbroglio Krishna Kanta Desai KK writes bogus IRM position papers Krishna Kirti Das aka Christopher Shannon bogus devotee KBI - Krishna Books Inc The Fate Of K. Books inc. / Hansadutta vs Gupta L Lokanath Swami bogus guru / sannyasi touching little girls on their private parts M Mahaman das bogus devotee TP, who calls manhandled matajis unscrupulous women Muralivadaka das of Alachua under suspension for child molestation Mayesvara Das aka. William Roberts, a self-certified apologist supporting homosexual paedophile guru lineage Madhusudani Radha dd abused Iskcon women brainwashed with bogus philosophy Malati Devi Dasi stupid GBC-Lady, stealing Govardhana Silas from the alter, troubling devotees Manonath das - MARIO SAVELLONI bogus "sex" devotee who wants to play Guru and be worshipped N Nitaichand Swami known homosexual pedophile, child abuser, beater, sex. molesting children Nrisimha Caitanya (disciple of Radhanatha Swami), says that Iskcon was born when Prabhupada died Niragadeva abusing children and having sex with Ananta Rupa Narayana Maharaja Guru of Gaudia Math who re-initiates Prabhupadas disciples Names of devotees who support Isk con's homosexual paedophile guru lineage O Name none Name none P Pancha Tattva dasa anti Ritvik proponent, against Srila Prabhupadas instructions Prithu Das Prithus True Colors Finally Revealed PURIPAD aka Jagganath das or Jeffry the clown, most absurd personae? Praghosa das (ACBSP) Paramatvaiti Swami aka Alanath das, reinitiated by Sridhara, bogus gaudiamath guru Q Name none R Rocana dasa Rocana is a post samadhi and post mortem devotee, dead and gone Rupa Vilas abusing children and having sex with Niragadeva Romapad Swami He is harmful, treats devotees as slaves and makes them cry Rohininanda das aka Roshan Singh bogus devotee has been rejected by his own guru Ravindra Svarupa aka Rabidog Svarupa, aka Braindeadsvarup, aka Ravandraksa Svarupa Ramesvara Swami bogus Ex Isk_con-guru linked to the murder of Sulochana Das Radhanatha Swami Murderer - assistant to Kirtanananda in the killing of Sulocana, a murder devotee S Sura das a shit moron, preaching anal pedophile guru lineage philosophy Sri Galima das - Gary Gardner Rapist, sex-pervert, child molester, pedophile "headmaster" New Vrindavan Satadhanya Swami known as shit-on-the-danda fucking gurukulis being Sannyasi Sivarama Swami most despicable slimy, bogus Isk_con-thug, harassing and prosecuting devotees Satsvarup Das Goswami one of the eleven selfappointed bogus gurus, planting the weeds Suhotra Swami a monster, reincarnated vampire living on devotees life-airs sucking them out Sukadeva das bogus devotee, watches porn, takes women in motels Srutadeva das of San Diego under suspension for child molestation Sesa dasa Minister of Justice, bogus devotee doing injustice to sincere vaishnavas Sundararupa Maharaja Questionable GBC ? Suchandra das aka Bhaktibhusana Swami, Stefan Kess, reinitiated by Harikesha bogus German devotee Sannyasi Syamarani - Jadurani Re-Initiated by Narayana Maharaj T Tamal Krishna Gosvami Founder Acarya and head of the bogus Isk_con-Guru System Tripurari Swami bogus Isk_con-Swami, threatened GBC to vote him in as an ISK CON guru Tapahpunja aka Terry Sheldon, an ex-con who was jailed for complicity in Sulochana's murder Tirtha das aka Thomas Drescher notorious Iskcon devotee murderer, killed Chakradara and Sulocana das Tamohara CPO Child Protection Office - compromizes on child protection Trivikrama Swami supporter of bogus gurus Tarun Krishna das (NM follower GM lackey) U Umapati Swami none V Vipramukhya Swami aka viper-mukh or snake-like poisonus mouth, meaning he talks nonsense Vedavyasa das alias Christian Jansen, bogus German devotee Veda Vyasa abusing Bengali devotees and Prabhupada disciples in Montreal Virabahu bogus, voted in as guru at a known homosexual pedophile's recoronation Vishvakarma Toronto temple ex-president who abandoned wife and kids to run off with another devotee's wife Vishvambhar a false renunciate with Sanyasa ambition in Chicago Vakresvara child abuser accused of raping a girl just 13 years of age ------- if he is engaged in devotional service he is to be considered saintly because he is properly situated in his determination. PURPORT The word su-durācāraḥ used in this verse is very significant, and we should understand it properly. When a living entity is conditioned, he has two kinds of activities: one is conditional, and the other is constitutional. As for protecting the body or abiding by the rules of society and state, certainly there are different activities, even for the devotees, in connection with the conditional life, and such activities are called conditional. Besides these, the living entity who is fully conscious of his spiritual nature and is engaged in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, or the devotional service of the Lord, has activities which are called transcendental. Such activities are performed in his constitutional position, and they are technically called devotional service. Now, in the conditioned state, sometimes devotional service and the conditional service in relation to the body will parallel one another. But then again, sometimes these activities become opposed to one another. As far as possible, a devotee is very cautious so that he does not do anything that could disrupt his wholesome condition. He knows that perfection in his activities depends on his progressive realization of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Sometimes, however, it may be seen that a person in Kṛṣṇa consciousness commits some act which may be taken as most abominable socially or politically. But such a temporary falldown does not disqualify him. In the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam it is stated that if a person falls down but is wholeheartedly engaged in the transcendental service of the Supreme Lord, the Lord, being situated within his heart, purifies him and excuses him from that abomination. The material contamination is so strong that even a yogī fully engaged in the service of the Lord sometimes becomes ensnared; but Kṛṣṇa consciousness is so strong that such an occasional falldown is at once rectified. Therefore the process of devotional service is always a success. No one should deride a devotee for some accidental falldown from the ideal path, for, as explained in the next verse, such occasional falldowns will be stopped in due course, as soon as a devotee is completely situated in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Therefore a person who is situated in Kṛṣṇa consciousness and is engaged with determination in the process of chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare should be considered to be in the transcendental position, even if by chance or accident he is found to have fallen. The words sādhur eva, "he is saintly," are very emphatic. They are a warning to the nondevotees that because of an accidental falldown a devotee should not be derided; he should still be considered saintly even if he has accidentally fallen down. And the word mantavyaḥ is still more emphatic. If one does not follow this rule, and derides a devotee for his accidental falldown, then one is disobeying the order of the Supreme Lord. The only qualification of a devotee is to be unflinchingly and exclusively engaged in devotional service. In the Nṛsiḿha Purāṇa the following statement is given: bhagavati ca harāv ananya-cetā bhṛśa-malino 'pi virājate manuṣyaḥ na hi śaśa-kaluṣa-cchabiḥ kadācit timira-parābhavatām upaiti candraḥ The meaning is that even if one fully engaged in the devotional service of the Lord is sometimes found engaged in abominable activities, these activities should be considered to be like the spots that resemble the mark of a rabbit on the moon. Such spots do not become an impediment to the diffusion of moonlight. Similarly, the accidental falldown of a devotee from the path of saintly character does not make him abominable. On the other hand, one should not misunderstand that a devotee in transcendental devotional service can act in all kinds of abominable ways; this verse only refers to an accident due to the strong power of material connections. Devotional service is more or less a declaration of war against the illusory energy. As long as one is not strong enough to fight the illusory energy, there may be accidental falldowns. But when one is strong enough, he is no longer subjected to such falldowns, as previously explained. No one should take advantage of this verse and commit nonsense and think that he is still a devotee. If he does not improve in his character by devotional service, then it is to be understood that he is not a high devotee. |
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