Say no to stalybridge mosque


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2013-11-02 20:46

I posted two comments to the proposer of this "center on their website" as follows are the posts and replies i received.
1.Question:

When will you people get it, we don't want islam in this town, as for
understanding islam, i know all i need to know, LEAVE Stalybridge
ALONE!

NO Mosque
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Answer:

We want to come to Stalybridge which is our town too to clarify that
none of what you have referred to is true about Islam. The message we
are delivering to our fellow Muslims and non-Muslims alike is that
many of the evils that are happening in the world in the name of Islam
have little to do with its correct understanding.

There could be three responses to the phenomenon of religious
extremism we are witnessing from Muslims these days: To throw Muslims
out of existence, to convert them to become non-Muslims, or to let
them know an interpretation of Islam which is both authentic and
completely peaceful. We are convinced that while the first two
possibilities are both impossible and promise disastrous consequences,
the third one is the only possible and effective solution to the
problem. We want to start our efforts to achieve that objective from
our Stalybridge Centre.

Can we also say that it will be our pleasure to sit and talk to you in
person about any issues that you have about Islam and Muslims?

OK so if islam isn't a violent religion, and has a problem, why the need to explain how peaceful it is? Also note the "We want to start our efforts to achieve that objective from
our Stalybridge Centre" What efforts?
Also Note the comment"We want to come to Stalybridge which is our town"
If it's your town too. why would you NEED to come here.
Also note the word" Objective"
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OK 2nd Post
Question:

As i said, i don't want to understand islam! What right do you think
you have to insist on trying to educate me on a subject i have no
interest in.
And why do you feel the need to inform everyone how peaceful islam is,
unless there is a problem. Isuggest you go to the ghetto's in Oldham,
Longsight, Dewsbury, Etc etc,
to ask why muslims do not intigrate. You will not sway me with
propaganda or taqiyya.
I will re-iterate, it's not wanted or welcome and will cause nothing
but trouble.
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Answer:

Okay; if that's your stance, we don't blame you, because you have a
reason for your anger. However, we do have right within the system of
the British society to make arrangements for the purposes of the needs
of our respective cultural groups. We won't force you to listen to us.
It's your right not to be bothered by what we say if you are not
interested. However, what we are trying to clarify is that if some of
your friends do choose to listen to us, they will find our religiously
narrative refreshingly different, one that is much needed by the
troubled world of ours.
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Taqiyya, the cunning way of deceiving others by lying you have
referred to, is an attitude we consider unacceptable in Islam. Be rest
assured therefore that what we say we mean it.

Dr Khalid Zaheer
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So Here He says "we do have right within the system of
the British society to make arrangements for the purposes of the needs
of our respective cultural groups." Now THAT i agree with, except there is NO cultural group in this town concerning islam! He then goes on to say "THEY WILL" find our religiously
narrative refreshingly different", one that is much needed by the
troubled world of ours." The troubled world he speaks of is that of islam
The final reference i made to Taquiyya he gave a rather odd answer "Taqiyya, the cunning way of deceiving others by lying you have
referred to, is an attitude we consider unacceptable in Islam. Be rest
assured therefore that what we say we mean it." Ok, So he admits taquiyya exists in the muslim community, and then says he isn't lying when he says what he says what he says what he says. Get the picture?
So to finish
Call it what you want, mosque, learning center, library, multicultural whatever.
Until these problems with the islamic ,faith, dogma, doctrine, are addressed by muslims, Not US
then the next great conflagration is UN-avoidable.