Hands Off Hartlebury Common

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steve mccarron
The author of this petition

#1726 Conveyance is a fraud!!!!!

2012-11-19 21:30

Dear Mr Barnett

Further to your enquiry, I have checked with the Church Commissioners property department who confirm the information I have previously provided to you regarding their ownership of the common, deriving from their ownership of the Lordship of the manor of Hartlebury. They have also stated that there would have been a statutory declaration in 1968 confirming their ownership and not a title deed.



As well as the conveyance I've already provided you with a copy of free of charge we do have a file on Hartlebury Common which you are more than welcome to inspect at our reading room - details are on our Lambeth Palace Library website - http://www.lambethpalacelibrary.org/content/cerc.



Regards



Declan Kelly

Church of England Record Centre

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#1737 Re: Conveyance is a fraud!!!!!

2014-06-05 17:36:15

#1726: steve mccarron - Conveyance is a fraud!!!!!

The conveyance is a reciept only

The 'goods' would be the title.

The church of england do not just 'lose' titles as any normal person would not.

The title implies a lineage of owners. At some point the 'assumed' owner, or thief would be apparent.

The defifnition of a 'common' is manorial waste, land that is not wanted by the lord of the manor so it is disposed off.

The lord of the manor relinquishes any interest in that land or common.

The lord of the manor described the 'rights' commoners would have.

At hartlebury, these where, mineral, and herbage that is all

There has never been a title for any common, because of the unique creation of a common, that's what a common is, land without title, not freehold or something that would be bought or sold fee-simple.

Ownership of commons has been assumed, and any such pretence of ownership is in fact theft.

Commons are our only public access, public owned lands in the UK.

Commons comprise 5% of the land mass of England.

These commons have been fenced for the first time in one thousand years